The 90-minute conversation between Putin and Schultz... Is it the beginning of the thaw between Russia and Europe?

The 90-minute conversation between Putin and Schultz… Is it the beginning of the thaw between Russia and Europe?

Observers’ opinion

  • According to experts, the positions and reactions that were issued after the phone call from the two sides, reflect "No breakthroughs achieved".
  • Observers saw that this call "Referring to the signs of the maturation of what can be called the mutual readiness of the two sides of the crisis (Russia and the West) to show diplomatic flexibility and a tendency towards compromise solutions to the cessation of the war" .

mutual hurt

The expert researcher on German and European affairs, Maher Al-Hamdani, told "Sky News Arabia":

  • "Calculations of profit, loss and mutual harm are strongly present in the minds of Putin, Schultz and various Western leaders.".
  • He continued: "Despite all the contradictory propaganda about the victories of each party and its ability to defeat the other, the various parties involved and involved are in reality the losers, and affected by the length of the war, so some parties seek to mediate between them to rely on the option of negotiation, which will be the final option no matter how long the war and the intransigence of the contenders".

winter paper

  • "The Germans know that the Ukrainian military pressure on the Russians, due to the continuous Western armament of Kiev, will mean that they will be affected by the Russian reaction, which will intensify the use of energy weapons in the face of Berlin and the various capitals of Europe"According to Al-Hamdani.
  • He continued: "For this reason, Berlin in particular seeks to avoid that scenario, and to urge the warring parties to dialogue and declare a truce, at least during the winter season, while Moscow does not want to miss the opportunity to exploit the winter card to hold Europe from the hand that hurts it.".
  • "In the absence of details about the content of the call, which lasted for 90 minutes, which is a very long period in the protocols of telephone conversations between the leaders of countries and governments, it is clear that there was a debate in the various files of the crisis and their addresses, although what was announced about the results of the conversation was limited to Generalities with accent compliments".
  • The expert on German affairs considered that "If there were positive results from the communication, it would have been celebrated and announced".

Germany’s role

  • For his part, Professor of International Relations and Conflict Resolution, Hassan Momani, said in an interview with "Sky News Arabia":
  • "The feverish German and French communication with Russia was not interrupted in order to find a peaceful way out of the Ukrainian conflict, limiting its disastrous consequences, especially since Germany is the European country with the most intertwined economic relations with Russia and the most dependent on it in the field of gas and energy.".
  • He noted that this "He previously reflected Berlin’s desire to absorb Moscow and strengthen the European partnership with it, but with the outbreak of this war, priorities and plans changed, and the Germans became obligated to abide by the Western and Atlantic position on Russia, and the concern for security overshadowed the considerations of the economy.".
  • "The conflict has greatly exceeded the European arena, so Germany cannot succeed in overcoming it unless there is a general Western consensus led by Washington to authorize Berlin to do so, by virtue of being the most affected by the consequences of the war on its energy security. Its importance will not stop the conflict, especially with the recent Ukrainian military advances and the Russian insistence on going to war"According to Momeni.

vicious circle of war

At the same time, the security expert considered that "It is too early to talk about effective settlements to the crisis and an active German role in it. The conflict is very complex, Russia will not accept defeat, and Ukraine, in return, with the support of the United States, is seeking to drain Moscow, and thus the vicious circle of war continues.".

And he added: "But keeping the lines open between Putin and Schultz, and before him Macron, may contribute to preventing the war from developing further, and when the conditions for a negotiated solution are ripe, the German and French channels can play an important role, noting that the most prominent role is for Washington, so Schultz’s communication with Putin seems very difficult to count. He has to make a huge breakthrough the size of stopping the war".

"hand the solution"

  • Regarding his opinion of the solution to this crisis, he said: "In the end, this zero-sum game must be finished, and in order to stop this destructive war and not to push Russia into a corner, it is necessary to present a ladder so that Putin can descend from the tree and to avoid the worst of the world".
  • He added: "We are facing a sharp conflict between major powers that have nuclear fangs, and this peace will not be provided except by putting forward ideas and creative initiatives, to reach a compromise solution that ends the war and establishes a consensus that saves everyone’s face.".

It is reported that the last phone call that the German chancellor had with the Russian president took place in late May, and the call was also attended by French President Emmanuel Macron, who is the most European leader in contact with the Kremlin since the start of the Ukrainian war.

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What was in the call?

  • The phone call lasted an hour and a half.
  • During the call, the various repercussions of the Ukrainian war on Europe and the world were discussed, such as the file of grain and energy exports and the Zaporozhye nuclear plant.
  • The Russian and German leaders “agreed to continue the lines of communication between them.”
  • The conversation took place in conjunction with the energy crisis that rages in Europe, and in particular in Germany with the approach of winter, and in light of the transformations that occur on the field scene following the advance of Ukrainian forces in the eastern Kharkiv region, and their victories over the Russians there.

Observers’ opinion

  • According to experts, the positions and reactions that were issued after the phone call from both sides, reflect “the failure to achieve any significant breakthroughs.”
  • Observers saw that this call “indicates signs of the maturation of what can be called the mutual readiness of the two sides of the crisis (Russia and the West) to show diplomatic flexibility and a tendency toward compromise solutions to the cessation of the war.”

mutual hurt

Maher Al-Hamdani, an expert researcher on German and European affairs, told Sky News Arabia:

  • “The calculations of profit, loss and mutual harm are strongly present in the minds of Putin, Schultz and various Western leaders. Economic pressures and heavy losses inflicted on both sides of the conflict put pressure on them.”
  • He continued: “Despite all the contradictory propaganda about the victories of each party and its ability to defeat the other, the various parties involved and involved are in fact losers, and affected by the length of the war, so some parties seek to mediate between them to rely on the option of negotiation, which will be the final option no matter how long the war takes.” The intransigence of the wrestlers.”

winter paper

  • “The Germans know that the Ukrainian military pressure on the Russians, due to the continuous Western armament of Kiev, will mean that they will be affected by the Russian reaction, which will intensify the use of energy weapons in the face of Berlin and the various capitals of Europe,” according to Al-Hamdani.
  • And he added, “This is why Berlin, in particular, seeks to avoid that scenario, and to urge the warring parties to dialogue and declare a truce, at least during the winter season, while Moscow does not want to miss the opportunity to exploit the winter card to hold Europe from the hand that hurts it.”
  • In the absence of details about the content of the call, which lasted 90 minutes, which is a very long period in the protocols of telephone conversations between leaders of countries and governments, it is clear that there was a debate in the various files of the crisis and their addresses, although what was announced about the results of the conversation was limited to on generalities with an accent of compliments.”
  • The expert on German affairs considered that “if there were positive results that resulted from the contact, it would have been celebrated and declared.”

Germany’s role

  • For his part, Professor of International Relations and Conflict Resolution, Hassan Momani, said in an interview with Sky News Arabia:
  • “The feverish German and French communication with Russia has not been interrupted in order to find a peaceful way out of the Ukrainian conflict, limiting its disastrous consequences, especially since Germany is the European country with the most intertwined economic relations with Russia and the most dependent on it in the field of gas and energy.”
  • He noted that this “previously reflected Berlin’s desire to accommodate Moscow and strengthen the European partnership with it, but with the outbreak of this war, priorities and plans changed, and the Germans became obligated to abide by the Western and Atlantic position on Russia, and the concern for security overshadowed the considerations of the economy.”
  • “The conflict has greatly exceeded the European arena, so Germany cannot succeed in overcoming it unless there is a general Western consensus led by Washington to authorize Berlin to do so, by virtue of being the most affected by the consequences of the war on its energy security, but the conflict is nevertheless greater than the issue of energy and understandings on this file. Despite its importance, it will not stop the conflict, especially with the recent Ukrainian military advances and the Russian insistence on going to war,” Moumni said.

vicious circle of war

At the same time, the security expert considered that “it is too early to talk about effective settlements to the crisis and an active German role in it, as the conflict is very complicated and Russia will not accept defeat, and Ukraine in return, with the support of the United States, seeks to drain Moscow, and thus the vicious circle of war continues.”

And he added, “But keeping the lines open between Putin and Schultz and Macron before him, may contribute to preventing the war from developing further, and when the conditions for a negotiated solution are ripe, the German and French channels can play an important role, noting that the most prominent role is played by Washington, so Schultz’s communication with Putin appears from It is very difficult to count on him to make a huge breakthrough on the scale of stopping the war.”

Ladder the solution

  • Regarding his opinion on solving this crisis, he said: “In the end, this zero-sum game must be finished, and in order to stop this destructive war and not to push Russia into a corner, it is necessary to present a ladder so that Putin can descend from the tree and avoid the worst of the world.”
  • He added, “We are facing a severe conflict between major powers that have nuclear fangs, and this peace will not be provided except by putting forward ideas and creative initiatives, to reach a compromise solution that ends the war and establishes a consensus that saves everyone’s face.”

It is reported that the last phone call that the German chancellor had with the Russian president took place in late May, and the call was also attended by French President Emmanuel Macron, who is the most European leader in contact with the Kremlin since the start of the Ukrainian war.


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